Neue FW 1.03.02 auf koreanischem Server

[jacobacci]

Hallo zusammen
Nachdem ich bei der internen Verschlüsselung der 2013Feb05 Firmware aufgelaufen bin (konnte Files auf dem PC nicht mehr abspielen), habe ich die 1.03.02 vom Feb14 aufgepspielt. SmartEPG_TMS.ini habe ich angepasst (IgnoreToppyPadding=1).
Ich habe zwei Sachen festgestellt:
- Wenn ich den Topf ausschalte, schaltet er selbständig wieder ein
- Die Cursortasten funktionieren in den Menüs zeitweise nicht. Nach ca. 10 Sekunden geht es dann plötzlich wieder.
Habt Ihr diese Probleme auch festgestellt.
Auto Decrypt teste ich heute Abend.

[Heisenberg]

[quote="rudolffischer"]
- Wenn ich den Topf ausschalte, schaltet er selbständig wieder ein
[/quote]

Der Topf prüft nach jedem Ausschalten, ob Files für die Auto-Descramble Funktion vorliegen. Wenn ja, entschlüsselt er diese und schaltet sich danach aus. Wenn er keine findet, schaltet er sich direkt wieder aus.

Es gibt eine Firmware 2011Mar09 und eine Firmware 2013Feb05 (die meinst Du wahrscheinlich).
Eine Firmware 2011Feb05 gibt es nicht.

[2401]

[quote="rudolffischer"]
- Die Cursortasten funktionieren in den Menüs zeitweise nicht. Nach ca. 10 Sekunden geht es dann plötzlich wieder.[/quote]

I have noticed this happening sporadically. It pauses sometimes and remote feels laggy. I did not mention this yet because there is certain method to make it happen, it is so sporadic.
Also what I have noticed is that starting HDDinfo tap, I sometimes have to start it twice until it opens.

[FireBird]

[quote="2401"]Also what I have noticed is that starting HDDinfo tap, I sometimes have to start it twice until it opens.[/quote]
This is a known problem of that menu and can happen with any TAP.

[2401]

[quote="FireBird"]This is a known problem of that menu and can happen with any TAP.[/quote]

Is it firmware related problem? I haven't seen it happening with Feb05_2013 firmware.

[FireBird]

Yes, but don't ask me when it has been introduced.

[2401]

I understand.

It would be great if there was a change log published for every firmware and also some bug list of problems found in each version. It takes a lot time and work to test each firmware and find out what works and what does not. Everytime new firmware is released there may be fixed something I have been waiting for but later I find out something that used to work is broken now. Very frustrating. I was already jumping from joy when I tried the latest one and found out that corrupting recording problem was fixed but then found out problem was triggered different way this time. There are also some other aspects in this new firmware where older ones worked better.

[Wolfman]

Topfield and changelog? That reminds me of warm Ice Popsicles

[2401]

Seriously I've had this product for about two years and it never has worked fully. I'm quite quick to learn avoiding faults in each firmware once I find them all but it is such a pain try to teach other family members avoid them too. Not to mention their constant remarks, why do I have to avoid doing certain things and once they fail to follow the rules and their recording is ruined it is such a riot.

[jacobacci]

So, ich habe nun etwas mehr Erfahrung mit der neuen Firmware.
- Das nicht-reagieren der Cursortasten tritt nur in den ersten ca. 10 Sekunden nach dem Start auf. Nachher funktionieren die Tasten
- Auto descramble funktioniert mit einer Aufnahme, die ich unter der neuen Firmware gemacht habe
- Aufnahmen von verschlüsselten Kanälen, die ich unter der 2013Feb05 Firmware gemacht habe, bleiben verschlüsselt. Auf dem Topf wird KEIN Verschlüsselungssymbol angezeigt, aber die Aufnahme wird auf dem PC mit TSDoctor als verschlüsselt identifiziert und lässt sich auf dem PC nicht abspielen. Auf dem Topf läuft sie ohne Probleme
- Nach dem Ausschalten fährt der Topf gleich wieder hoch. Das nun seit einer Woche. Solange kann es doch nicht dauern, bis er die Festplatte (1TB, 80% voll) durchforstet hat

[Maliboy]

Also meiner Fährt definitiv nicht wieder hoch. Zur 2013Feb05 Software und verschlüsselten Aufnahmen kann ich nichts sagen, da ich immer die von April 2013 drauf hatte.

[jacobacci]

Habe nun auf Firmware 1.04 aufdatiert und nun fährt der Topf nach dem Ausschalten nicht mehr hoch.
Die Aufnahme, die nicht automatisch entschlüsselt wurde, habe ich nun manuell entschlüsselt (abspielen und roten Aufnahme Knopf drücken -> danke für den Tipp).
Nun funktioniert alles ziemlich ok.

[2401]

Corrupting recordings!
I found this serious problem with the 1.03.02 firmware (download from Korean server).

These are steps to replicate this problem.

1. You need an ENCRYPTED HD channel. Pick one (let's call this "Channel 1") and make short recording (10 minutes or so) from the same channel and make sure you don't switch channels or play anything else to make sure the recording is FULLY decrypted (blue dollar icon). Let's call this "File 1" Only when this is ready proceed with next step.

2. Make sure you are on "Channel 1" and stay there

3. Make short timer recording (5 minutes) from "Channel 1" starting from 5 minutes (it is important that the recording does not start right away!!!!). Let's call this "File 2"

4. Start playing the "File 1" (the recording you made in the Step 1). Make sure you start playing it BEFORE recording definined in the Step 3 (File 2) starts!!! Keep playing it until the recording (defined is the Step 3 / File 2) is finished

5. Start playing the "File 2" (the recording you made in Step 3). You will see that it is unplayable/corrupted. Only black screen and text message bounching around the screen.
(In case you made recording in the Step 3 (File 2) longer than the "File 1" you played during recording it, then the remaining part of the "File 2" is NOT corrupted. It will work forward from the point you stopped playing the "File 1").

Any news on this matter? Is it even reported to Topfield Korea?

I don't mean to push but honestly this problem makes using this product a complete hell. I already have numerous corrupted recordings because sometimes other family members and even I (even I'm Mr. Perfect) forget to check what is going to start recording while I watch old recordings.

[2401]

Corrupting recordings!
I found this serious problem with the 1.03.02 firmware (download from Korean server).

These are steps to replicate this problem.

1. You need an ENCRYPTED HD channel. Pick one (let's call this "Channel 1") and make short recording (10 minutes or so) from the same channel and make sure you don't switch channels or play anything else to make sure the recording is FULLY decrypted (blue dollar icon). Let's call this "File 1" Only when this is ready proceed with next step.

2. Make sure you are on "Channel 1" and stay there

3. Make short timer recording (5 minutes) from "Channel 1" starting from 5 minutes (it is important that the recording does not start right away!!!!). Let's call this "File 2"

4. Start playing the "File 1" (the recording you made in the Step 1). Make sure you start playing it BEFORE recording definined in the Step 3 (File 2) starts!!! Keep playing it until the recording (defined is the Step 3 / File 2) is finished

5. Start playing the "File 2" (the recording you made in Step 3). You will see that it is unplayable/corrupted. Only black screen and text message bounching around the screen.
(In case you made recording in the Step 3 (File 2) longer than the "File 1" you played during recording it, then the remaining part of the "File 2" is NOT corrupted. It will work forward from the point you stopped playing the "File 1").

There is similar problem (but not the same as this) with corrupting recordings in the CRP2401CIplus(GER_42031)_2013Feb05_v1.01.00 firmware (and possible older versions too) but problem is triggered slightly different way.

Nobody testing these firmwares before releasing them??



This is how this same problem was triggered in the older firmwares (like CRP2401CIplus(GER_42031)_2013Feb05_v1.01.00)
Please read carefully and you see what it different in the procedure to trigger it.

1. You need an ENCRYPTED HD channel. Pick one (let's call this "Channel 1") and make short recording (10 minutes or so) from the same channel and make sure you don't switch channels or play anything else to make sure the recording is fully decrypted (blue dollar icon). Let's call this "File 1" Only when this is ready proceed with next step.

2. Make sure you are on "Channel 1" and stay there

3. Make short timer recording (5 minutes) from "Channel 1" starting as soon as possible. Let's call this "File 2". Let is record for 1-2 minutes before you go to step 4.

4. Start playing the "File 1" (the recording you made in Step 1). Keep playing it until the recording (defined in Step 3/File 2) is finished

5. Start playing the "File 2" (the recording you made in the Step 3). You will see that it is unplayable/corrupted starting FROM THE POINT the recording you defined in the Step 3 (File 2) started. Only black screen and text message bounching around the screen.


Do you now see the difference between the two cases? While they look similar, they are the two different issues.

There is small but crucial difference in Steps 3 and 4 between these two.

I reported this problem two months ago but still no firmware fixing the problem or even any comments from Topfield. Is there any support for this product anymore or have they closed down?