Using Smart EPG on Australian Model TMS

[Referee]

My 7160 is set up to save in rec format, but I suspect that Smart EPG saves timed recordings in mpg format, but am not sure. Can someone please confirm.

Error on my part ---------------
My 7160 is set up to save in mpg format, but as the Topfields from Europe save in rec, could the difference between the two account for the problems I am having with timers. As jaffaman says on the Australian Forum

They both work, but many taps will only show one or the other, and I think even the default filelist may have problems showing both. The Australian models have all used .mpg except for some very very early firmware. The European models use .rec.

There is actually a difference in the files in Australia to Europe, which means keeping this convention can be handy if you are doing something in a TAP that cares about the file format differences.

One of the Australian Taps I use TMS Archive has a configuration to use either the mpg TMS format or rec the SRP one.

Any feedback or suggestions on where to go from here. Having all the previously set timers disappear is turning people off this excellent tap. One of the timers SE says is labelled autodescramble. Another is the daily SmartEPG scan.

Another point to consider is that the 7160 is that it can record 4 programs at once. As long as they come from no more than two transponders. They are labelled as IR type timers some of mine are/were like that. Others were once only timers. SE said on startup that there were conflicting timers. Only Tap running

eg. (ABC1, AbCNews24) and (WIN and GO), but not (WIN), (ABC1) and (Prime7). Brackets show the various transponders - Prime7 being a different one to the other two.

Just missed twilight's post about having a config for both types

[FireBird]

One of the Australian Taps I use TMS Archive has a configuration to use either the mpg TMS format or rec the SRP one.

There is no real difference, it is just the name. If a TAP sets a timer, it can be ?Referee.mpg? or ?Referee.rec?. If the timer fires, the recording inherits that name. Right now, .rec is hardcoded into SmartEPG but a new setup switch for .mpg or .rec will come with the next version.

Having all the previously set timers disappear is turning people off this excellent tap.

This is something I do not understand. I guess that we need to start to dig in the logs.

Another point to consider is that the 7160 is that it can record 4 programs at once.

We also have these type of machines (24xx). The conflict management is done by the firmware and therefore 4 recordings are supported by design. We do not have IR timers so I don?t know how they are handled by the API. Again, we need to exchange logs.


Mike, I?ve posted something similar in Australian forum but the post is still waiting for approval. May I suggest to discuss SmartEPG related things here as this is a non-moderated forum?

[Referee]

Thanks Firebird,

What would you like me to send you and where/how do I do that. I can FTP the logs to the PC and then email same if required.

We also have 24xx machines but they do not have IR Intelligent Record timer firmware yet.

On another note is there a special reason that the logo format requires three sizes in the .ibl, .qtl, .qsl format. OZ taps are starting to make jpg's the accepted normal format?

[FireBird]

The SmartEPG log is located in /ProgramFiles/Settings/SmartEPG_TMS. It would also be a good idea if TimerDiags is running at the time when the timers disappear. TimerDiags creates a TAPSystem.log under /ProgramFiles/Settings. You can find my email address on the contact details page of my user profile.

[quote="Referee"]On another note is there a special reason that the logo format requires three sizes in the .ibl, .qtl, .qsl format. OZ taps are starting to make jpg's the accepted normal format?[/quote]
I guess that they will scale down a jpg using the TAP API. I?ve never checked how well this scaling is working for tiny graphics like logos. However this scaling is not available for non-jpegs.

[Twilight]

[quote="Referee"]What would you like me to send you and where/how do I do that. I can FTP the logs to the PC and then email same if required.[/quote]
you can zip the log file or change the extension to .txt and upload it to your post on this board.

twilight

[Referee]

[quote="Twilight"]you can zip the log file or change the extension to .txt and upload it to your post on this board.

twilight[/quote]

Have to go out for a while, but will get back to it a little later on this morning AEDT.

Thanks

[FireBird]

That means that you're 10 hours ahead of us. Good night.

[darklyscanned]

Is it necessary to choose REC or MPG in SE setup?
Coudn't SE check FirmwareTMS.dat and set accordingly.

For example, FirmwareTMS.dat reports a 7160 and SE sets recording mode to .MPG

Is it possible or too much trouble?
I am a non-programmer, so it all seems very easy too me

[Referee]

good morning mike.

the logos you have to copy in ProgramFiles/Settings/Logos/trans-black/169/ (but this you must still have because se installs the autodescramble logos itself)

there you can store your logofiles, every logo has to be stored in three sizes: qtl/ibl/qsl

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when you have finished that you can send us your logo.lil and we can add yours to ours.
you can upload your logo pack into taptodate and share it with all other users in australia.


cheers
twilight

Hi twilight,

Have sent my lil file to Firebird. At the moment my logo files in the 3 formats 3 sizes are simply in the 169 folder on the Topfield. How do I make a logo pack?

Or do I need to send in all the logos to someone. I do not use TTD as the Topfield is not permanently networked to the PC only connect it to FTP where necessary.

I will try to make as many of the other logos in the respective sizes for other areas throughout Oz. I will also try to gather other lil files to identify. Would think thatt there will not be as many as you would have there. All five transponders are used throughout OZ. Only the logos vary as sometimes the services change from one transponder to another in regional areas.

Cheers :

[Twilight]

if you want to have it in ttd and nobody of your australian users (maybe deangelj?) can host the file you can send it to us.
but i think it make sence to have it in australians hand.
firebird will tell you how to make a correkt tgz file.

twilight

[FireBird]

[quote="darklyscanned"]Is it necessary to choose REC or MPG in SE setup?
Coudn't SE check FirmwareTMS.dat and set accordingly.

For example, FirmwareTMS.dat reports a 7160 and SE sets recording mode to .MPG[/quote]
I'll check how I can add that flag to the FirmwareTMS.dat file.

[Referee]

[quote="FireBird"]The SmartEPG log is located in /ProgramFiles/Settings/SmartEPG_TMS. It would also be a good idea if TimerDiags is running at the time when the timers disappear. TimerDiags creates a TAPSystem.log under /ProgramFiles/Settings. ............[/quote]

Firebird. i missed that it might be good to run the TimerDiags Tap. Sorry did not do that. Have now found it in the forum. Downloaded it is labelled 3.4b. Is that the right one. Has a setup tap and the main tap. Should get to do that tomorrow.

Danke again for the help.

Cheers

[Twilight]

timerdiags is always a good idea to have it on your toppy.
smart epg has its own log file, both together are a good tool to find problems.

twilight

[FireBird]

3.4b is the correct version.

[FireBird]

[quote="Referee"]Have sent my lil file to Firebird. At the moment my logo files in the 3 formats 3 sizes are simply in the 169 folder on the Topfield. How do I make a logo pack?[/quote]
Just send me the logos and lils and I'll create an OZ package. If you like, we can also add them to the big TAPtoDate logo pack.

[brewer65]

Firebird,
I was translating the manual in English along with Mike. I was able to copy the screen shots but not the remote symbols, could you send them to me.
also
1. can the transparency of the screen be changed, currently set to high contrast but sometimes still hard to read?

2.When setting up a search could you explain the 50 in T+50 or T-10 etc?

3. when setting up a new search can you just used the search name "*star trek*" or do you need to have it setup in the search text as well. All my searches use the latter

Doug

[FireBird]

Hi Doug,

I'll send the pics soon.

1. SmartEPG doesn’t change the transparency, so the global Toppy setting (Settings – OSD – OSD Transparency) is used.

2. You can set multiple search strings. If a string is a hit, the points will be summed up. If the summ is >= 50, the timer will be programmed.

e.g.: T+50 *start trek*; T-10 *voyager*

Programme = „Start Trek“. The first string is a hit, the second is not -> 50 points -> recording
Programme = „Start Trek Voyager“. Both strings match -> sum = 40 points -> therefore no recording

3. yes, you need to add at least one search text

[Twilight]

you can search in titel, description, long description and genre and different combinations of these.

twilight

[brewer65]

Thanks for the explanation.
Is there any way of changing the order the station appear on the guide? I wanted to have the top ten stations listed I watch listed 1-10 so they are all visible on the original page?

Doug

[FireBird]

The order of the stations is identical to the one in the settings. Or do you use the favorites display?