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Topset 2.0 and Topfield 7700 HSCI

#1

Beitrag von jeivi2 » Mo 16. Jun 2008, 19:49

I have installed on my computer TOPSET 2.0. I have tried to connect my Topfield 7700 HSCI to my PC by USB 2.0 Cable. When I open the Topset 2.0 and “Read settings from receiver” the program says “Waiting for request. Please reboot the receiver”. I reboot the receiver but can not connect to my receiver. I have installed the Necessary USB - Driver for the Topfield Receiver but impossible. ¿What is the solution?

Thank you,,

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Beitrag von Twilight » Mo 16. Jun 2008, 19:54

you have to use a zero modem cable. (you have to change on topset the board too)
the usb board is a master board....for usb stick or harddisk.

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Beitrag von Paegas » Mo 16. Jun 2008, 19:57

[quote="jeivi2"]I have installed on my computer TOPSET 2.0. I have tried to connect my Topfield 7700 HSCI to my PC by USB 2.0 Cable. When I open the Topset 2.0 and ?Read settings from receiver? the program says ?Waiting for request. Please reboot the receiver?. I reboot the receiver but can not connect to my receiver. I have installed the Necessary USB - Driver for the Topfield Receiver but impossible. ¿What is the solution?

Thank you,,[/quote]

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Do not use USB connection. Use Nullmodem cable for RS 232.
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Beitrag von jeivi2 » Mo 16. Jun 2008, 20:22

[quote="Paegas"]---
Do not use USB connection. Use Nullmodem cable for RS 232.[/quote]


Thank you, but my notebook haven´t rs232 port, only usb ports. Is possible a conection between rs232 (topfield) to usb (notebook)?

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Beitrag von Paegas » Mo 16. Jun 2008, 20:34

Use USB-RS 232 adapter cable + Nullmodem cable together.
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Beitrag von Julian » Mo 16. Jun 2008, 20:49

jeivi2 hat geschrieben: I have tried to connect my Topfield 7700 HSCI to my PC by USB 2.0 Cable. When I open the Topset 2.0 .....


Just curious:

What cable you used for that? That should not be possible using standard cables available on the market :shock:

And, using a handcrafted cable is not a good idea, both sides now are supplying the 5 Volts and so the power supplys are fighting each other... (you own a good fire extinguisher? :D )
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Beitrag von berlin69er » Di 17. Jun 2008, 06:41

Julian hat geschrieben:Just curious:

What cable you used for that? That should not be possible using standard cables available on the market :shock:

And, using a handcrafted cable is not a good idea, both sides now are supplying the 5 Volts and so the power supplys are fighting each other... (you own a good fire extinguisher? :D )


And what's with this one? This is a "host to host"-cable! Originaly it is for a Technisat, for example! Is it possible to use this on a Topfield too? :thinker:
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#8

Beitrag von Julian » Di 17. Jun 2008, 09:20

Nope, that is not a cable but a communication device that connects to two PC using USB.
It requires special Software on both PC to do useful work.
And that software does not exist for a Topfield


And: it is USB v1.1 and therfore painfully slow!
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Beitrag von jeivi2 » Di 17. Jun 2008, 18:56

Paegas hat geschrieben:Use USB-RS 232 adapter cable + Nullmodem cable together.


Hi, I have bought a USB-RS 232 adapter cable + Nullmodem cable together. When I connect the cable on my PC, is detected "Prolific USB-to-Serial Comm Port (COM 9)". Now I open TOPSET 2.0 and going to TOOLS/OPTIONS/CONNECTION and I put Use Serial /Connection COM PORT: COM 9

Now I'm going to FILE and <Read setting from receiver> and START, then...."Waiting for request. Please reboot the receiver." I reboot the receiver but nothing. I'm desperate....

PLease HELP ME¡¡¡¡¡¡¡

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Beitrag von Paegas » Di 17. Jun 2008, 19:39

jeivi2 hat geschrieben:Hi, I have bought a USB-RS 232 adapter cable + Nullmodem cable together. When I connect the cable on my PC, is detected "Prolific USB-to-Serial Comm Port (COM 9)". Now I open TOPSET 2.0 and going to TOOLS/OPTIONS/CONNECTION and I put Use Serial /Connection COM PORT: COM 9

Now I'm going to FILE and <Read setting from receiver> and START, then...."Waiting for request. Please reboot the receiver." I reboot the receiver but nothing. I'm desperate....

PLease HELP ME¡¡¡¡¡¡¡

THANK YOU FROM SPAIN

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Set in Top set menu COM 3 in pc also COM 3 and it will work.
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Beitrag von jeivi2 » Di 17. Jun 2008, 20:07

[quote="Paegas"]---
Set in Top set menu COM 3 in pc also COM 3 and it will work.[/quote]


I set in Topset 2.0 menu COM3 and my pc also COM 3 but don´t work. ¿Is there any solution?

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#12

Beitrag von berlin69er » Di 17. Jun 2008, 20:15

Julian hat geschrieben:Nope, that is not a cable but a communication device that connects to two PC using USB.
It requires special Software on both PC to do useful work.
And that software does not exist for a Topfield


And: it is USB v1.1 and therfore painfully slow!


But it works with a Technisat DigiCorder S2...! Thats wy i thought it could be a solution for a topfield with "host to host" usb too! :thinker:
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Beitrag von jeivi2 » Di 17. Jun 2008, 20:31

[quote="jeivi2"]I set in Topset 2.0 menu COM3 and my pc also COM 3 but don´t work. ¿Is there any solution?[/quote]


Any solution????????????????????

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Beitrag von Paegas » Di 17. Jun 2008, 20:32

[quote="jeivi2"]I set in Topset 2.0 menu COM3 and my pc also COM 3 but don´t work. ¿Is there any solution?[/quote]
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You must see in PC equipment manager-ports COM and LPT : PROFILIC USB-to-Serial COM port (COM 3) after connecting of USB-RS 232 adapter cable.

Of course in Top set 2.00 must be set in Connections: Serial and COM 3.

For fw ...84 must be used new version Top set 2.00 to find here in board.
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Beitrag von Julian » Di 17. Jun 2008, 20:36

berlin69er hat geschrieben:But it works with a Technisat DigiCorder S2...! Thats wy i thought it could be a solution for a topfield with "host to host" usb too! :thinker:


I have not tried (and failed)...
So there is a chance, but my optimism is low, there would be no Logic behind

That Technisat: have you seen it running? out of the box? or was there some kind of 'TAP' involved? Or is that a Linux based box?
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Beitrag von Alter Sack » Di 17. Jun 2008, 22:34

jeivi2 hat geschrieben:Any solution????????????????????

Your picture doesn't show a nullmodem-cable, look at reichelt.de and search for "AK143", that's
what you need together with the usb-rs232-adapter ;) .
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#17

Beitrag von berlin69er » Mi 18. Jun 2008, 06:38

Julian hat geschrieben:I have not tried (and failed)...
So there is a chance, but my optimism is low, there would be no Logic behind

That Technisat: have you seen it running? out of the box? or was there some kind of 'TAP' involved? Or is that a Linux based box?


I saw it live on television, but it was not a fw-update, it was a filetransfer! On this page you can see the description for this! But i don't no, if it could work on a topfield too, because of the special technisat-software named "mediaport" you would need for this...! :thinker:

ot: Sorry for my very poor english...! :oops:
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#18

Beitrag von Twilight » Mi 18. Jun 2008, 07:54

a zero modem cable can made by youself: pin connection 2 to 3, 3to 2 and 5 to 5

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Beitrag von Julian » Mi 18. Jun 2008, 08:28

berlin69er hat geschrieben:But i don't no, if it could work on a topfield too, because of the special technisat-software named "mediaport" you would need for this...!


So the Firmware of the Technisat is aware of that Gadget and their version of 'altair' (Mediaport) is written to use it.

So it would work on a Topfield in case
1) Topfield would build in the support in their Firmware or
2) the 7x series would have a Tap API so that one of our FW gurus could implement it.

I would not hold my breath until that happens! :(
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Beitrag von Aldarin » Mi 18. Jun 2008, 13:44

jeivi2 hat geschrieben:Any solution????????????????????


As Alter Sack wrote: You need to connect a null modem cabel to the USB/RS232 adapter.

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